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[Zimbochick]

I don't know if anyone catches the Guardian articles on women/feminism? Excellent, well thought-out pieces.

Feminism's Global Challenge: With One Voice

Two-thirds of children denied school are girls, 64% of the world's illiterate adults are women, 41m girls are still denied a primary education, 75% of civilians killed in war are women and children, causing Major-General Patrick Cammaert, the former UN peacekeeping commander in the Democratic Republic of Congo, to declare in 2008: "It is now more dangerous to be a woman than a soldier in modern conflict."

What Does The F-word Mean Today

Feminism and popular culture.

[TAP]

Someone has to make the sandwiches

[Zimbochick]

Someone has to make the sandwiches

That's very true. My husband makes excellent sandwiches!

[LISA]

i make sammies for sexual favours

[TAP]

i make sammies for sexual favours

Do you have a take out menu?

[LISA]

depends............

[Mr. Roboto]

I agree in terms of complacency. Younger women especially seem to be perfectly fine being treated like crap by their male counterparts. Or at least that is how it appears to me.

[Zimbochick]

I also see a lot of complacency, but then I live in a conservative area too. Many women also don't get the concept of feminism. When I think of feminism I think of equality, but I have heard so many people locally denounce feminism as they ignorantly identify it as misandry. I also see that any of the younger generation who show an interest in women's isues is automatically labelled a lesbian. Why should that matter at all? It's as if we have moved 2 steps forward, and 4 steps back.

[Zimbochick]

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkp4t5NYzVM&feature=player_embedded]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkp4t5NYzVM&feature=player_embedded[/url]

[freedom78]

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkp4t5NYzVM&feature=player_embedded]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkp4t5NYzVM&feature=player_embedded[/url]

Interesting vid and a nice use of the 007 mythos to make a point.

I do find some of the arguments in it problematic or disingenuous, though. Women could have perfect equality and, still, that sexual assault stat isn't going to even out. I reject the notion (as some schools of feminism do, and others do not) that "equal" means "same" or that gender roles have to disappear. But, living in a country well behind in things like maternity leave, it's also apparent that our notions of gender roles can be too restrictive.

[Zimbochick]

Interesting vid and a nice use of the 007 mythos to make a point.

I do find some of the arguments in it problematic or disingenuous, though. Women could have perfect equality and, still, that sexual assault stat isn't going to even out. I reject the notion (as some schools of feminism do, and others do not) that "equal" means "same" or that gender roles have to disappear. But, living in a country well behind in things like maternity leave, it's also apparent that our notions of gender roles can be too restrictive.

Who knows what needs to happen to effect change with regard to sexual assault. And I absolutely agree that working towards equality does not mean elimination of gender roles.

[Hula]

not to change the subject but dang daniel is a looker even dressed as a woman

[TAP]

Interesting vid and a nice use of the 007 mythos to make a point.

I do find some of the arguments in it problematic or disingenuous, though. Women could have perfect equality and, still, that sexual assault stat isn't going to even out. I reject the notion (as some schools of feminism do, and others do not) that "equal" means "same" or that gender roles have to disappear. But, living in a country well behind in things like maternity leave, it's also apparent that our notions of gender roles can be too restrictive.

Who knows what needs to happen to effect change with regard to sexual assault. And I absolutely agree that working towards equality does not mean elimination of gender roles.

I seriously don't think anything will ever effectively change regarding sexual assault. Society (bad, early family life in particular) creates the kinds of people who become overly aggressive, selfish, user, sociopathic personalities who commits those kinds of crimes and few people are willing to pay for the kind of programs that can identify and treat at-risk kids early on to turn things around significantly for them individually and for society as a whole. Of course, neo-cons will say all they need is pray back in the schools.

Sorry, totally disagree. Evolutionary pressure is the reason for sexual assault - we are driven by sex and survival. Males are bigger/stronger and generally their 'best' reproductive strategy is to have as many mates as possible. This urge is tempered by other evolutionary pressures (cooperation etc) but I strongly believe this forms society rather than the other way round. I'm pretty sure sexual assault has been rife through all history and virtually all cultures/societies.

We will probably need either women to evolve to equal strength and/or some kind of authoritarian matriarchal government with strong disincentives to effectively eliminate sexual assault, but even then it wouldn't eliminate the urge.