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[artcinco]

But #muhweather... WE MUST CONTROL ENERGY AND DEVELOPMENT! #reasons...

[artcinco]

AG Lynch Testifies: Justice Dept. Has ‘Discussed’ Civil Legal Action Against Climate Change Deniers

[freedom78]

Nothing to see here, folks...

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Earth Sets Record Temperature in 2016 — for Third Year in a Row: NOAA

by Daniella Silva

 

 

Last year was the hottest year ever recorded, marking the third year in a row that average global temperatures hit record-setting levels, NASA and NOAA said Wednesday.

 

"We don't expect record years every year, but the ongoing long-term warming trend is clear," NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies Director Gavin Schmidt said in a statement.

 

The average temperature across global land and ocean surfaces was 58.69 degrees Fahrenheit, 1.69 degrees above the 20th century average, NOAA said Wednesday morning.

 

NASA and NOAA, which separately analyze global temperature data, have both found that global temperatures surpassed records for the past three years. Schmidt described the trend as remarkable.

The planet's average temperature has risen about 2.0 degrees Fahrenheit, or 1.1 degrees Celsius, since the late 19th century, a change "driven largely by increased carbon dioxide and other human-made emissions into the atmosphere," NASA said.

 

The announcement comes on the same day as Senate confirmation hearings for President-elect Donald Trump's pick to head the Environmental Protection Agency, Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt.

 

http://www.nbcnews.c...ow-noaa-n708386

 

[Mr. Roboto]

And now we have a guy in the WH who says it's a hoax perpetrated by the Chinese....his EPA pick is just as bad. 

[freedom78]

lol@ "The Chinese invented global warming"...it's like he's the fucking national enquirer in human form.  A walking, talking conspiracy theory and sex scandal.  BAT BOY FOUND IN WH BUNKER!

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[Mr. Roboto]

But I guess a record amount of humans and our march fo 10 billion people in the next 30 years isn't a cause or concern. Don't want to do anything about that.

 

Our party advocates gay sex and subsidizing birth control pills...we're doing our part. 

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[freedom78]

But I guess a record amount of humans and our march fo 10 billion people in the next 30 years isn't a cause or concern. Don't want to do anything about that.

 

Who isn't concerned?  Population boom, plus the continued development of China and India, among other places, should be a central concern, but for issues of hunger/poverty and also effects on climate.

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[AxlsMainMan]

As soon as we decided education and medical aide goes to all children regardless of parents ability to care, it becomes society's goal to ensure only healthy and mentally stable people are brought into this world. 

 

No offense but this sounds like some Mein Kampf shite right hurr.

[Its Cousin]

Aren't the polar bears supposed to be dead by now?

 

Nah, but their future is pretty damn bleak.

https://alaska.usgs....orecasting.html

 

 

 

What happened to the shipping routes that were going to open up in the arctic.

 

I recognize that you are just being facetious, but here, read this, anyway.

http://sciencenordic...tic-be-ice-free

 

 

 

 

]These climate scientist are about as accurate in their predictions and models as Pollsters were in the election.

 

You might want to get your climate science information from a reputable source, and by that I mean someone other than a retired college drop-out radio weatherman, because actually, the models have been pretty damn accurate, both climate and election, though some political pundits appear to not understand margin of error when compiling data. 

 

https://pbs.twimg.co...j1XWIAAdzsa.jpg

 

https://pbs.twimg.co...GjYWQAAbxPA.jpg

 

 

In fact, models constructed nearly 30 years ago are consistent with currently observed data.
http://imgur.com/BbsEoHT?


 

But I guess a record amount of humans and our march fo 10 billion people in the next 30 years isn't a cause or concern. Don't want to do anything about that.

 

I'm surprised that you resorted to a fallacy of relative privation... you usually make some decent arguments???

[Its Cousin]

A new NASA study finds that during Greenland's hottest summers on record, 2010 and 2012, the ice in Rink Glacier on the island's west coast didn't just melt faster than usual, it slid through the glacier's interior in a gigantic wave, like a warmed freezer pop sliding out of its plastic casing. The wave persisted for four months, with ice from upstream continuing to move down to replace the missing mass for at least four more months.

This long pulse of mass loss, called a solitary wave, is a new discovery that may increase the potential for sustained ice loss in Greenland as the climate continues to warm, with implications for the future rate of sea level rise.

 

more... https://climate.nasa...s-in-greenland/

[Its Cousin]

Antarctic ice rift close to calving, after growing 17km in 6 days

 

 

The rift in the Larsen C ice shelf in Antarctica has grown by 17km in the last few days and is now only 13km from the ice front, indicating that calving of an iceberg is probably very close, Swansea University researchers revealed after studying the latest satellite data.

The rift in Larsen C is likely to lead to one of the largest icebergs ever recorded.  It is being monitored by researchers from the UK's Project Midas, led by Swansea University.

Picture: the current location of the rift on Larsen C, as of May 31 2017.  Labels highlight significant jumps. Tip positions are derived from Landsat (USGS) and Sentinel-1 InSAR (ESA) data. Background image blends BEDMAP2 Elevation (BAS) with MODIS MOA2009 Image mosaic (NSIDC). Other data from SCAR ADD and OSM. (Credit: MIDAS project, A. Luckman, Swansea University)

Professor Adrian Luckman of Swansea University College of Science, head of Project Midas, described the latest findings:

“In the largest jump since January, the rift in the Larsen C Ice Shelf has grown an additional 17 km (11 miles) between May 25 and May 31 2017. This has moved the rift tip to within 13 km (8 miles) of breaking all the way through to the ice front, producing one of the largest ever recorded icebergs.

The rift tip appears also to have turned significantly towards the ice front, indicating that the time of calving is probably very close.

The rift has now fully breached the zone of soft ‘suture’ ice originating at the Cole Peninsula and there appears to be very little to prevent the iceberg from breaking away completely.”

‌Researchers say the loss of a piece a quarter of the size of Wales will leave the whole shelf vulnerable to future break-up. 

Larsen C is approximately 350m thick and floats on the seas at the edge of West Antarctica, holding back the flow of glaciers that feed into it.

Picture: aerial view of a section of the ice rift (Credit:  NASA, John Sonntag)‌

Professor Luckman added:

“When it calves, the Larsen C Ice Shelf will lose more than 10% of its area to leave the ice front at its most retreated position ever recorded; this event will fundamentally change the landscape of the Antarctic Peninsula.

We have previously shown that the new configuration will be less stable than it was prior to the rift, and that Larsen C may eventually follow the example of its neighbour Larsen B, which disintegrated in 2002 following a similar rift-induced calving event.

The MIDAS Project will continue to monitor the development of the rift and assess its ongoing impact on the ice shelf. Further updates will be available on our blog (projectmidas.org),and on our Twitter feed”

The team say they have no evidence to link the growth of this rift, and the eventual calving, to climate change.  However, it is widely accepted that warming ocean and atmospheric temperatures have been a factor in earlier disintegrations of ice shelves elsewhere on the Antarctic Peninsula, most notably Larsen A (1995) and Larsen B (2002).

They point out that this is one of the fastest warming places on Earth, a feature which will certainly not have hindered the development of the rift in Larsen C.

 

Picture: Ice flow velocities of Larsen C in April/May 2017, from ESA Sentinel-1 data.  (Credit:  A. Luckman, MIDAS, Swansea University, with Copernicus Sentinel data.)

 

 

http://www.swansea.a...17kmin6days.php