You can say that, but your opinion is that Trump is embarrassing the United States and harming our position abroad. Congratulations, that's exactly how a lot of us felt as Obama went on his apology tour and objectively weakened our international standing. Again, Obama shared intel with Russia in Syria that they actually used against us. It's all over the newswire, but I'll be glad to link the original articles if you want. Did the GOP scream the sky is falling and demand impeachment?
Sharing intelligence about Syria, while IN Syria, while Russia is IN Syria, seems perfectly natural. I suppose while the US and Russia fly combat missions over the country they should not talk, so as to massively increase the likelihood of them engaging one another and starting a major powers conflict? That's entirely different from revealing information sources. By all means, try to sweep this under your "Obama apologized" rug. Going deep into the archives for that one. Whether I am "embarrassed" by Trump (I am...more than you can possibly know) or you were embarrassed by Obama aren't relevant.
This is a level of hysteria completely unprecedented. It's one thing to have a Sarah Palin driving around the country spouting off idiocy. It's a completely other to have actual members of congress (who have no legislative accomplishments, but are career race-baiters) demanding Trump be impeached. For what? What law did HE break?
The level of hysteria seems appropriate to the level of accusation. I agree it's too much, but it's always too much.
As for what law he broke, if he pressured Comey to back off of Flynn or fired him to cripple the investigations (plural) into his campaign and administration, then he's obstructed justice. That's a crime.
Killing radical muslims and protecting our borders from an influx of illegal immigrants who are a huge burden to our country is kind of expected from the modern Republican party.
I didn't say otherwise...why is this important to the issue at hand?
I get it, Trump is a complete asshole. He says and does a lot of stupid shit in a very brash tone. He's not eloquent or maybe even decent. But that's why a lot of people voted for him. Instead of shoving rainbows of Hope and Change up their ass, he offered fire and brimstone like the original Metal Up Your Ass album cover. But he shared intel with Russia about ISIS (the exact same exchange the Obama administration made) which we are both trying to eradicate. That is entirely in his power and at his discretion and no one has shown that what he revealed was inappropriate. I'm pretty tired of the faux outrage.
If it was appropriate then it was appropriate. Knowing Trump, I'm sure it could have been handled better. I take less issue with the sharing of intelligence than with the fact that our idiot President did it in an irresponsible manner.
Democrats shit all over the Israelis. The only Jews they care about are American ones who make donations to their party. So excuse me if I find it laughable the DNC is upset that Trump may have harmed our relationship with Israel. After 8 years of Obama where they weren't even on speaking terms, this is a hysterical. Excuse me if I chuckle at the idea of members of our intelligence agencies in open revolt committing numerous felonies, but the left wants to worry about Trump using his executive authority to share intel to help a military ally destroy an enemy the Obama administration allowed to form and grow.
Holy shit you're all over the map today. Yes, Obama had a bad relationship with Netanyahu. After 70 years of financially supporting a country that's perpetually at war, Obama tried the stick instead of the billion dollar carrot. Oh well.
And Obama didn't allow ISIS to form. The Bush admin did. Undeniable if you know your facts.
I'm not trying to play the blame game. Just pointing out that there are very real criticisms of the way Democrats handled our government for 8 years. Obamacare is a massive failure and is about to implode. The DNC has done nothing to resolve it, and worse, people already blame the GOP for it being a colossal failure. It's as if never enforcing that individual mandate that was the crux of the entire program created a problem.
I have no problem with those criticisms. Can you explain how your criticisms of Obama/Democrats is relevant to whether Trump obstructed an investigation?
There is absolutely nothing Trump can do that won't elicit condemnation and cries of Armageddon from the left. Nothing. Every leader in the DNC demanded Comey resign or be fired. When it happened, they did a complete 180. It's all a farce. The idea that Trump fired Comey to halt the investigation is ABSURD. In what world and with what logic would firing Comey end the investigation? To claim this was his intent is pretend Trump is a complete fucking idiot and not the man who built a billion dollar empire through real estate, reality TV and winning the office of the most powerful person in the world.
That same logic could be implied to argue that Bill Clinton didn't lie to a grand jury...after all, he was clearly smarter than Trump, has also won the office of the most powerful person in the world, etc. Or maybe people do dumb things sometimes?
Everyone forgets how bad Obama's first year in office was. He brought in a bunch of Academics and idealists with no government experience and it took them about a year to work out all of the kinks. A recent study showed that CNN spends 95% of their news coverage on Trump. Is it any surprise you feel Trump's administration is worse than Obama's when the media does nothing but trash it 24/7? It's no wonder outrageous far right media enclaves have sprouted. Someone has to try to balance out the one sided avalanche of intentional bad press. The WaPo was cheering in their editorial room when the intel sharing gained traction. That's not the behavior or a group trying to inform. It's the behavior of a group trying to sabotage. And people wonder why Trump doesn't gargle on their balls and kiss their ass. Obama had the Nobel before he was even sworn in. That was the kind of environment the media created for him. Christ, the Podesta leaks showed open coordination between the media and Clinton. As much as Sean Hannity may be a fill in for Goebbels, plenty of journalists were all too eager to kiss the ring of Hillary and run a story approved by her team. When did the 4th estate become an advocacy group? If that is there new role, then they should be accountable when they selectively release classified material that no law provides them protection from.
I have plenty of criticisms of the media and I agree with much of what you say. I feel the rise of infotainment and opinion journalism has been a severe disservice to our republic. But isn't it just possible that maybe Trump gets a lot of press and a lot of bad press because, first, he's the President and presidents get a lot of press and, second, because he creates controversy with his actions? He does things unlike every President in the media era and when he fails its gets him negative press. Healthcare is easy, Israel is easy, the wall will be bought with pesos. The guy is wrong about nearly everything...and you expect good press? I would have liked nothing more than for Trump to be a surprisingly effective leader. I do not want to wonder if my President is corrupted after just a few months. The media cannot create those issues, it can only respond to the actions that he takes.
Benghazi deserved to be investigated. I'm not saying Clinton did anything wrong. I don't think she did. But our embassy was attacked and 4 people were killed. Then Obama has Rice hit the talk show circuit and outright lie about the cause. And Clinton follows suit, lying to the families of the deceased telling the same lie. Why? All because they didn't want to admit they fucked up, didn't assess the threat appropriately, and let Stevens stay there when they should have ordered him to evacuate. That's the truth behind Benghazi.
Of course it deserved investigation. Did it deserve to be investigated in 7 different House and Senate committees, fully politicized in an effort to undermine the candidacy of the likely Democratic nominee for President?
If investigating two lies, about something in which you believe nothing really was done wrong, warrants seven investigations, then how many does the potential obstruction of justice and/or involvement of Russia in our elections deserve?
So all of that is a long way of saying I don't know what the fuck "treasonous" means anymore. Especially when the exact same actions you're calling treason now, were committed by Obama's team and had the full support of the American left. I do know our stock market is at its highest point ever, jobs are slowly improving and hopefully we'll get more action on deportations and protecting our country from being swarmed by people who don't give a fuck about our history, language and values and just see us as a huge honeypot.
I didn't call it treason, but I've heard that said. If anyone colluded with a foreign power to affect the election, that might very well be treason. I doubt Trump personally did that...we'll see about his campaign staff.
