The Ongoing American Shooting Epidemic
#16
Posted 15 December 2012 - 03:41 PM
Agree with wedjat that it's not even shocking any more. That says it all.
#17
Posted 15 December 2012 - 05:57 PM
Giving attention to some guy who appears to be trying to gain attention/controversey/whatever doesn't seem necessary IMO. Ignore them.
Agree with wedjat that it's not even shocking any more. That says it all.
Curious how people in your country view these shootings over here?
#18
Posted 15 December 2012 - 07:33 PM
Curious how people in your country view these shootings over here?
Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but I think there's a (ill-informed) percentage over here view all Americans as gun nuts who won't want to change the laws over there. When things like this happen, I think the general view is that 'Surely this will cause the gun laws to change', but it just doesn't seem to happen. Just bizarre how easy it seems to be to get your hands on a lethal weapon....
Thankfully we have very little incidents like this over here, though this one did bring to mind the Dunblane school shooting (http://en.wikipedia....school_massacre), which happened when I was the same age as most of the victims there. I vaguely remember it...
#20
Posted 15 December 2012 - 10:50 PM
Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but I think there's a (ill-informed) percentage over here view all Americans as gun nuts who won't want to change the laws over there. When things like this happen, I think the general view is that 'Surely this will cause the gun laws to change', but it just doesn't seem to happen. Just bizarre how easy it seems to be to get your hands on a lethal weapon....
Thankfully we have very little incidents like this over here, though this one did bring to mind the Dunblane school shooting (http://en.wikipedia....school_massacre), which happened when I was the same age as most of the victims there. I vaguely remember it...
What are you gun laws over there?
#21
Posted 15 December 2012 - 11:42 PM
#22
Posted 16 December 2012 - 10:03 AM
#24
Posted 16 December 2012 - 12:22 PM
#26
Posted 16 December 2012 - 12:52 PM
Thinking the Unthinkable
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Art, don't blame you for posting that but don't think articles like that help. It gives a false correlation, the vast majority of aspergers/autism spectrum people don't commit mass murder and likely the majority of mass murderers aren't on the spectrum. Stigmatizing it this way isn't going to help even if that wasn't her intention which it probably wasnt
#27
Posted 16 December 2012 - 01:00 PM
That argument is weak & an oxymoron. That's like the solution to an increase in car accidents is to put more cars on the road.The argument that increased gun ownership reduces gun crime? The guys mother legally owned those guns, she didn't stop it.....
I've seen some posts on FB bitching about liberal Hollywood glorifying violence in its movies but wanting more gun control. That may be true but these same people pointing that out also tend to accept violence in films but fight tooth & nail to keep sex or nudity out of movies. Which is worse do you think?
#28
Posted 16 December 2012 - 01:29 PM
#29
Posted 16 December 2012 - 02:14 PM
Art, don't blame you for posting that but don't think articles like that help. It gives a false correlation, the vast majority of aspergers/autism spectrum people don't commit mass murder and likely the majority of mass murderers aren't on the spectrum. Stigmatizing it this way isn't going to help even if that wasn't her intention which it probably wasnt
It was an interesting part of this. As the facts become known it looks like the mother's second amendment sisterhood ran into a troubled child with disastrous results. I am pro gun ownership but I don't own one.
There are two things at work here. What led this unstable kid to contemplate these acts, and the body count afforded by the number and types if weapons he had access to.
I don't want to see guns confiscated or banned. Something I read said the shooter tried to buy additional guns but was not allowed to. Unfortunately his mother's home was an armory.
This reminds me of 9-11. Things slip through and cause grievous harm. The odds of these things are small. Lottery territory. It sucks but the urge to over-correct can be strong after these type of horrible events.
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#30
Posted 16 December 2012 - 11:17 PM
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