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If you have the VH1 Classic station and watch TMS, use this thread to discuss the episodes. The last two episodes: > singer from Stryper, now deceased singer from Warrant, some other guy from an old LA band - I didn't like any of the guests. The only interesting thing was the mention of a cover album by Stryper. The songs are posted on youtube. I listened to a few of them and thought they did a decent job on the music, particularly on the guitar leads on "Over the Mountain" even though the tone was not exactly like Jake E. Lee. After listening to the vocals on some of the covers, I can see why the singer fronted Boston. The guitarists can pull off dual harmonizing leads. That's a plus. But I wouldn't pay money for this offering from Stryper or any of their original albums. The throwdown was a travesty. Fair Warning is better than Women and Children First. I don't care what they say. > the guitarist from RATM and Audioslave, a guy from KingsX Again, I wasn't too excited about the guests. Morello seemed way too hyped up. I don't think he does drugs, so he may have been having some sort of manic episode. The throwdown was wrong again. RATM was not as good of a band as Audioslave. Chris Cornell. Enough said.

[Timothy]

rage over slave.. now if it was Rage vs. soundgarden then...

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not a huge fan of this show guys were discussing greatest songs with "Devil" in it one dude is wearing a fucking Motley Crue T Shirt and doesn't mention "Shout At The Devil?" REALLY?

[artcinco]

If you have the VH1 Classic station and watch TMS, use this thread to discuss the episodes.

> singer from Stryper,

The only interesting thing was the mention of a cover album by Stryper. The songs are posted on youtube. I listened to a few of them and thought they did a decent job on the music, particularly on the guitar leads on "Over the Mountain" even though the tone was not exactly like Jake E. Lee. After listening to the vocals on some of the covers, I can see why the singer fronted Boston. The guitarists can pull off dual harmonizing leads. That's a plus. But I wouldn't pay money for this offering from Stryper or any of their original albums.

I don't get this channel but I follow Eddie Trunk on Twitter. That sounds like "I slept at a Holiday Inn last night."

Anyway, I am a big Stryper fan from back in the day, THE YELLOW AND BLACK ATTACK! Their first two albums were very good. They were a good band with talented musicians and catchy songs, although a bit churchy. They even threw me a Stryper Bible at a concert of theirs I went to once. I think the religion rock was a double edged sword for them. It got them in the door, it was their gimmick but it kept them second tier. Michael Sweet and Oz Fox can definitely do the guitar harmony though. Did you check out their cover of Heaven and Hell? It rocked.

I always thought Sweet would be a better fit for replacing Dennis DeYoung in Styx. He sounds just like him.

And did you mean RANDY RHOADS above instead of Jake E. Lee?

[VOR]

If you have the VH1 Classic station and watch TMS, use this thread to discuss the episodes.

> singer from Stryper,

The only interesting thing was the mention of a cover album by Stryper. The songs are posted on youtube. I listened to a few of them and thought they did a decent job on the music, particularly on the guitar leads on "Over the Mountain" even though the tone was not exactly like Jake E. Lee. After listening to the vocals on some of the covers, I can see why the singer fronted Boston. The guitarists can pull off dual harmonizing leads. That's a plus. But I wouldn't pay money for this offering from Stryper or any of their original albums.

I don't get this channel but I follow Eddie Trunk on Twitter. That sounds like "I slept at a Holiday Inn last night."

Anyway, I am a big Stryper fan from back in the day, THE YELLOW AND BLACK ATTACK! Their first two albums were very good. They were a good band with talented musicians and catchy songs, although a bit churchy. They even threw me a Stryper Bible at a concert of theirs I went to once. I think the religion rock was a double edged sword for them. It got them in the door, it was their gimmick but it kept them second tier. Michael Sweet and Oz Fox can definitely do the guitar harmony though. Did you check out their cover of Heaven and Hell? It rocked.

I always thought Sweet would be a better fit for replacing Dennis DeYoung in Styx. He sounds just like him.

And did you mean RANDY RHOADS above instead of Jake E. Lee?

No, I meant Jake E. Lee because I was wrong.

I was sitting there listening to the song and thinking that doesn't sound like the trademark Jake E. Lee tone. Since you've corrected me and jogged my memory as to the original guitarist, I will have to listen to it again and see if the tone is more reminiscent of Randy Rhoads. Even if the tone is wrong for the right guitarist, I still have to admit that the notes were right and phrased very closely to the original on a particularly interesting part of the song. That's what impressed me. With these cover songs, I generally sit there waiting for them to deviate from the original when they can't pull something off.

I have a foggy memory from when I was about 13 of seeing Stryper open up for Megadeth. Maybe I am imagining it. If I did see them, I hated them for being cheesy. I just remember joking the shit out of them for mixing religion with metal. It's like watching a pornographic film starring a preacher.

Anyway, you are correct about the musicianship. No denying they can play their instruments well. I don't like the singer's voice even though he can sing well. Matter of personal taste. You're correct about Styx. One of the songs I listened to had a vocal part that gave me a "More Than a Feeling" deja vu moment - hence, the Boston comment.

Yeah, I heard "Heaven and Hell" and thought it was decent musically. I wanted to like it more. The singer just isn't Ronnie James Dio. Sorry. I'm still waiting for Chris Cornell to put out a Dio cover album.

You have to find some way to watch this show. It sucks a lot when they broadcast from the West Coast, but the East Coast shows seem to bring in better guests. They did get Iommi in the studio this season, though. Good show.

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Eddie Trunk and his two stooges are total twats, - almost makes me want to not like UFO - but congrats on creating a music show which is best with the mute button.

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Latest episode - Guests - some guy from Slipknot, two guys from Night Ranger. I hate Slipknot and don't like Night Ranger, but I watched this episode because I was hoping Brad Gillis would talk about working with Ozzy. I still enjoy listening to the Speak of the Devil album. No disrespect to Iommi, but Gillis made some of those songs sound fresh and exciting again. They did talk about his stint with Ozzy briefly. No new information was revealed. The funniest thing about this episode was the hawking of some book written by the Slipknot guy. Apparently, the book included sins as he sees them. One of the sins was shitty music. Too bad he doesn't realize he commits that sin on a daily basis. The top five segment was about founding/influential metal bands. I only object to the inclusion of Deep Purple. I love that band, and it is not and has never been a metal band. I would argue that Blackmore didn't truly compose in the metal genre until he formed Rainbow. The throwdown was about Highway to Hell vs. Back in Black. The former won and rightfully so. I did find out that the full episodes can be viewed for free on the show's homepage.

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Just back into town from business trips this weekend and watched a few weeks from the DVR -

Episode - Members of Anthrax and Skid Row - Never liked Anthrax, so it doesn't matter to me if Scott Ian thinks the band is as good as it used to be. Skid Row had a couple of good songs.Got bored and skipped out on the trivia and throw down.

Episode - Sammy Hagar - Never liked Hagar in Van Halen. He is not David Lee Roth. I think that says it all. From the interview, he does seem like a down to earth guy, though. Montrose was pretty good. Alex Skolnick was the guest guitarist. I do like him. Sadly, he wasn't playing Testament style leads during the breaks. Some blues stuff, lackluster. The Top Five was about best hard rock vocalists of the 1980's. They got it all wrong. Bruce Dickenson a hard rock singer? Please. The Throw Down was Eddie Van Halen vs. Joe Satriani. I'd pick Eddie even though Satriani is more versatile. Just because something is technically interesting it doesn't mean it sounds cool.

Episode - The singer from Ratt who had some plastic surgery a while back and looked remarkably like a leathery ape in the face and Ripper Owens. Well, aside from a couple of catchy tunes, I've never been a Ratt fan. I will say that it looks like that bad face lift has been corrected to some extent. Now he wears a Crocodile Dundee hat to hide his face. Ripper Owens has a good voice and has worked with some interesting people over the years. Apparently, he is doing something called Dio Disciples now where they tour and do Rainbow, Sabbath, and DIO material. The Throw Down was Sykes vs. Vai vs. Aldrich (as Whitesnake guitarists). Sykes won and rightfully so.

Here is some of the new Ripper Owens tour:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGGREwGY5Ac&feature=related[/url]

He isn't Ronnie James Dio. Maybe it would sound good if I was there in person and drunk.

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New Anthrax is good. If you liked "Spreading the Disease" and "Among The Living" the new one is worth a listen. Skid Row. I like a few songs. Squidhammer's band opened for Bach recently. I like Hagar. I don't think everything he does is stellar but I like a fair amount of his stuff. I see his VH as I see RJD's Sabbath, a different animal. Skolnick is good in Testament but I only really liked their "The Ritual" CD. I have heard a boot of Skolnick's solo jazzy thing. It was OK. I don't know enough Satriani but EVH is his generation's Pete Townsend. I did get the first CHICKENFOOT cd at best buy for $3 a couple weeks back. Not bad. Not great but not bad. That band needed Neal Schon. Ripper - some decent stuff on his Priest CDs. Ratt's face - reminds me that Quiet Riot's Kevin DuBrow had more hair in the 90s than he ever did in the 80s. Sykes is the man. Vai seems out of place in WS and Aldrich is good but no Sykes. Waiting to see what Sykes and Portnoy come up with.

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New Anthrax is good. If you liked "Spreading the Disease" and "Among The Living" the new one is worth a listen.

Skid Row. I like a few songs. Squidhammer's band opened for Bach recently.

I like Hagar. I don't think everything he does is stellar but I like a fair amount of his stuff. I see his VH as I see RJD's Sabbath, a different animal.

Skolnick is good in Testament but I only really liked their "The Ritual" CD. I have heard a boot of Skolnick's solo jazzy thing. It was OK.

I don't know enough Satriani but EVH is his generation's Pete Townsend. I did get the first CHICKENFOOT cd at best buy for $3 a couple weeks back. Not bad. Not great but not bad. That band needed Neal Schon.

Ripper - some decent stuff on his Priest CDs. Ratt's face - reminds me that Quiet Riot's Kevin DuBrow had more hair in the 90s than he ever did in the 80s.

Sykes is the man. Vai seems out of place in WS and Aldrich is good but no Sykes. Waiting to see what Sykes and Portnoy come up with.

I need you to get me some video footage of Squid's band. He is shy or worried about me being too critical. I heard some of his playing and could tell he was a good guitarist, so I won't say anything horrible.

There is a Rush cover of "Working Man" featuring Bach and Jake E. Lee. It's good. But he was gay most of the time in Skid Row. I don't know if I'm allowed to call things and famous people gay on this message board. The rules state no homophobic or sexual posts. I will take my chances on the gay thing since I'm not bashing homosexuality. Maybe I will just get a warning if it's against the rules. I actually had to call oral sex 'above the neck sodomy' in another thread because I thought saying oral sex might get me thrown out.

Anyway, Testament's last album sounded good to me. They played some songs from it on the Metal Masters tour that sounded very old school. Skolnick said they have a new album coming out. Might be worth acquiring.

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New Anthrax is good. If you liked "Spreading the Disease" and "Among The Living" the new one is worth a listen.

And...

Well, I pretty much hate them. I remember going to an Ozzy concert when Anthrax was the opening act. They were doing some sickening rap song and had on day-glo clothing. Looked like they fell out of a Lucky Charms box. One minute of listening to that shit made me hate them forever. I don't care if they discover the cure for cancer; I will still hate them.

[artcinco]

^ I think they have moved beyond the rap-metal stuff for the time being. There is none of that on the new CD.

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The last episode was a good one - John Sykes and Mike Portnoy

Aside from concert footage, I've never seen John Sykes. The first thing I noticed was how big that guy is compared to other men. His hands are huge, and that is a double-edged sword when it comes to playing guitar. Finger length means being able to stretch up and down the fretboard, but finger thickness means it's more difficult to play fast without being sloppy and hitting wrong notes. After seeing those hands, I think even more of him.

Sykes talked about Coverdale in not so favorable terms. Funny. He also talked about his days with Thin Lizzy, and you could tell he really thought a lot of Phil.

Portnoy addressed the split from Dream Theater.

The most interesting thing was when they announced that they were going to be doing an album and tour together. They said it was going to be a very old school sound like Deep Purple, Sabbath, etc. Sykes will sing. Pretty excited about this, as I have been a Sykes fan for a while. I can't remember if they said what the band was going to be called.

The Throw Down was Permanent Waves vs. Moving Pictures. Hard to choose. Both are so good.

The Top Five was about hard rock drummers. These idiots are fucking retarded. I know this will come as a shock to anyone with any musical taste...

Cozy Powell and Tommy Aldridge did not make the list.

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What do you think bothers Coverdale more - Sykes singing and playing this classic well or Sykes being sexier than him while doing it?

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6aEFz09rxQ[/url]

Yes, I feel like a traitor for saying that about Coverdale. It's not my fault that he sounds like a parrot now and made some bad plastic surgery choices. I was a loyalist until that last live album.

[artcinco]

I saw Sykes live back in his Blue Murder days when he toured behind the second BM release after Carmine Appice and Tony Franklin had been shown the door. He played a metal bar in San Antonio. Good show although I remember him not being a big person as you described. Maybe he just has fat fingers. I always liked his playing, in Lizzy and Whitesnake and through BM and the one solo CD of his I bought. He works best when he has another musician contributing as with Lynott and Coverdale. Left to his own devices the stuff is less interesting. I will definitely check out his project with Portnoy although I think TAP might deem it more offensive than Sammy Hagar. Was there any mention of who is on bass?