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[wedjat]

Wisconsin Recalls 2011: Voters Head To Polls For First General Election Contest

Yeah, Hansen won.....victory clap. He gets to keep his seat. Pasch also won against the fake 80-something year old Dem that ran, that primary was like last week I think. I just want to watch Darling get fucking crushed in the general election. Stupid bitch. Pardon my language.

[AxlsMainMan]

[Mr. Roboto]

If Obama backs off these debt talks and only addresses one side of the ledger, spending, I'm going to be pissed. Even worse, if he agrees to a short term fix, allowing the GOP to attack him again during election season I'll be severely disappointed in his ability to negotiate. Why do the Dems always try and act like gentleman here? They did with Bush and they do now. The GOP doesn't give two shits about them. Do you think Bush's administration would be bending over backwards to try and compromise with the Dems on anything??? Please. Taking the high road only makes you look weak and yields shitty results.

[Mr. Roboto]

I'm starting to wonder if the US may lose it's AAA rating even if an agreement is made.

[wedjat]

If Obama backs off these debt talks and only addresses one side of the ledger, spending, I'm going to be pissed. Even worse, if he agrees to a short term fix, allowing the GOP to attack him again during election season I'll be severely disappointed in his ability to negotiate.

Why do the Dems always try and act like gentleman here? They did with Bush and they do now. The GOP doesn't give two shits about them. Do you think Bush's administration would be bending over backwards to try and compromise with the Dems on anything??? Please. Taking the high road only makes you look weak and yields shitty results.

I wholeheartedly agree. There's no reason for a short-term fix, they've been working on this for months. Get w/it goddammit already! And screw agreeing to only spending cuts. The GOP shits have to compromise, that's it. I'm tired of Dems pussy footing around all the time. Where is their backbone? Jesus, get me in Congress, they'll never know what hit 'em.

[wedjat]

If Obama backs off these debt talks and only addresses one side of the ledger, spending, I'm going to be pissed. Even worse, if he agrees to a short term fix, allowing the GOP to attack him again during election season I'll be severely disappointed in his ability to negotiate.

Why do the Dems always try and act like gentleman here? They did with Bush and they do now. The GOP doesn't give two shits about them. Do you think Bush's administration would be bending over backwards to try and compromise with the Dems on anything??? Please. Taking the high road only makes you look weak and yields shitty results.

I wholeheartedly agree. There's no reason for a short-term fix, they've been working on this for months. Get w/it goddammit already! And screw agreeing to only spending cuts. The GOP shits have to compromise, that's it. I'm tired of Dems pussy footing around all the time. Where is their backbone? Jesus, get me in Congress, they'll never know what hit 'em.

The problem is that the Republicans hold all the power in the House right now. Nothing will get passed that they don't want to get passed. All Obama can really do is refuse to sign bills. I really hate, though, that the Democrats keep backing down from raising taxes on the wealthy. No matter how much they give them in spending cuts, it won't be enough. The Tea Party wants to completely de-fund all the safety nets and oversight programs in the federal government. What really needs to happen is for the Republican main-streamers and party establishment to get the balls to force the Tea Partiers to start their own party and leave the Republicans alone. I

So how is this going to be fixed I wonder? I mean, it seems the only option is 1. agree to the 6 month short term fix & then we spend another 6 months squabbling all over again & nothing gets fixed yet again or 2. default. I mean, there are no other options.

[Mr. Roboto]

Even if he raises the debt ceiling that way, we could still get downgraded which will ultimately raise our deficits because of increased interest. This is what makes me so friggin angry about these teabaggers. They scream about debt and defecits but are about to compound the problem with their sheer stupidity.

[Mr. Roboto]

I also tend to think the GOP got more than they bargained with, with the 'baggers. They rode that wave to a 2010 win, but now they have to answer to them. There is currently close to a billion dollar short against the market right now. I can't imagine any firm would put up that type of risk if they didn't anticipate a downgrade. Somebody knows something...

[Mr. Roboto]

[freedom78]

Even if he raises the debt ceiling that way, we could still get downgraded which will ultimately raise our deficits because of increased interest. This is what makes me so friggin angry about these teabaggers. They scream about debt and defecits but are about to compound the problem with their sheer stupidity.

I heard something today on American Left radio. They said the Republicans want to force the President to use the 14th amendment to raise the debt limit because they think it would be an impeachable offense. Just what we'd need is to waste money on another impeachment.

Only Republicans would preach the Constitution and then claim that acting in accordance with it is an impeachable offense.

Of course, the 14th Amendment is far from clear...

[Mr. Roboto]

Even if he raises the debt ceiling that way, we could still get downgraded which will ultimately raise our deficits because of increased interest. This is what makes me so friggin angry about these teabaggers. They scream about debt and defecits but are about to compound the problem with their sheer stupidity.

I heard something today on American Left radio. They said the Republicans want to force the President to use the 14th amendment to raise the debt limit because they think it would be an impeachable offense. Just what we'd need is to waste money on another impeachment.

There are a couple of different scenarios here. One is that if Obama uses that to end this bullshit he may be seen as a leader by many Americans. A take charge guy who said "Fuck it, this is what we are doing to keep America safe." It could make the GOP look bad and Obama look strong.

The other is that the GOP also look like huge dickheads (not a tough thing to do) by spending money and time trying to impeach him rather than help the economy. They already poll horrible and this is going to make them look even worse. I honestly don't think that Boehner wants this, I think he's would rather raise taxes and cut spending, but his 'bagger base has him by the balls.