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[artcinco]

"... she was granted a unique platform in front of which to spew her venom for personal responsibility: a congressional committee."

So wait. What were the men who testified to the congressional committee doing? Were they also "spewing venom"? Not to mention, what the hell's so "unique" about testifying before a congressional committee? Thousands of people have done it. I can't even read any further, that piece is such obvious bullshit fucktudity.

Why do you read that kind of crap, Art? Seriously, I don't get it.

I guess I just want to see the entire argument that is being made. I can skate by "flowery" language to a point. But I have done just what you did on other articles I have tried to read though. Especially if it is a writer I have read before and can see where they are going from a mile away.

[artcinco]

What?

Birth control is free because people won't have babies.

[artcinco]

"Her claim that it costs many of her fellow law students up to $1,000 a year for birth control is either blatantly false, or outlandishly ridiculous. As Jimmie Bise tweeted, “either her argument is crap or she’s having sex with anything that can’t outrun her.” Condoms are $7 a box, pills can be bought for $20 a month. The amount of sex that Sandra Fluke must be having to necessitate $1,000 a year in contraception makes one wonder how she manages to actually attend law school. Either Fluke and her fellow students are, er, indulging themselves five times a day every day of the year, or she’s lying. The smart money is on the latter."

The price of oral contraceptives vary greatly depending on which one is prescibed by her physician.

And again a dumbfuck who has no idea regarding human biology, or how oral contraceptives work. A woman takes one pill a day, just one. It doesn't matter if she sleeps with one thousand men, 13 women, and a donkey, she still only takes ONE FUCKING PILL A DAY!

He also included condoms which are good for one use. You can buy a whole bunch of condoms for $1,000 a year. If you went through that many then you have had a large quantity of relations.

[freedom78]

I find this whole debate amusing. Here are people saying "shouldn't my insurance cover birth control, so that I can have easy, free access to those things that will allow me to practice safe sex". The right denounces them as acting entitled. Should they NOT practice safe sex, and have many children who would then get them tax breaks and, perhaps, greater access to government programs, the right would denounce them as a drain on the system and, wait for it, entitled.

Thus, we have a conundrum. To the right, women are little more than an entitlement waiting to happen. They either act entitled to control their sexuality or create more little entitled people. This, I'm guessing, is why so many on the right are closeted homosexuals...no entitlements come out the back door.

[Jill]

I guess I just want to see the entire argument that is being made. I can skate by "flowery" language to a point. But I have done just what you did on other articles I have tried to read though. Especially if it is a writer I have read before and can see where they are going from a mile away.

Birth control is free because people won't have babies.

I have no idea what either of these two things mean.

I should also point out that there's a significant difference between mere "flowery" language for the sake of prose, and "flowery" language that indicates a lack of facts.

I find this whole debate amusing. Here are people saying "shouldn't my insurance cover birth control, so that I can have easy, free access to those things that will allow me to practice safe sex". The right denounces them as acting entitled. Should they NOT practice safe sex, and have many children who would then get them tax breaks and, perhaps, greater access to government programs, the right would denounce them as a drain on the system and, wait for it, entitled.

Thus, we have a conundrum. To the right, women are little more than an entitlement waiting to happen. They either act entitled to control their sexuality or create more little entitled people. This, I'm guessing, is why so many on the right are closeted homosexuals...no entitlements come out the back door.

Okay, that's hilarious.

[Mr. Roboto]

I find this whole debate amusing. Here are people saying "shouldn't my insurance cover birth control, so that I can have easy, free access to those things that will allow me to practice safe sex". The right denounces them as acting entitled. Should they NOT practice safe sex, and have many children who would then get them tax breaks and, perhaps, greater access to government programs, the right would denounce them as a drain on the system and, wait for it, entitled.

Thus, we have a conundrum. To the right, women are little more than an entitlement waiting to happen. They either act entitled to control their sexuality or create more little entitled people. This, I'm guessing, is why so many on the right are closeted homosexuals...no entitlements come out the back door.

I hope you don't brainwash your students with this crap!

[freedom78]

I hope you don't brainwash your students with this crap!

Believe it or not, I don't brainwash my students. I'd rather play Devil's Advocate. I've had students thank me for taking a balanced and fair minded approach.

I don't mention this often because, according to the right, I'm a de facto communist out to warp and twist impressionable young minds and, should I disprove this allegation, I know they'll only shout it louder or replace it with something higher up the absurdity scale.

I do occasionally shake my head as I give to some budding conservative the tools to make better arguments in defense of their positions. However, I am bolstered by the belief that the more evidence they seek out, the less they can justify being conservative in the first place. Unfortunately, this is probably lost on some, like the girl who claimed that the US doesn't get invaded because of civilian gun ownership. *sigh*

[Mr. Roboto]

Unfortunately, this is probably lost on some, like the girl who claimed that the US doesn't get invaded because of civilian gun ownership. *sigh*

Some things you can not fix.

[Mr. Roboto]

That was no apology.

That's not the point.

[Zimbochick]

What really pisses me off is that, depending on the source, between 50 and 87% of Catholic women use birth control, and yet this ridiculous discussion is taking place. I hate organized religion.

[artcinco]

The Biggest Beneficiary of the Contraception Mandate? Drug Companies

[artcinco]

[Mr. Roboto]

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[Mr. Roboto]

I think this may kill the female vote for the GOP for the general election to be honest. They tried to make this about "an attack on religion" and got bogged down in this disaster instead.

[Zimbochick]

I agree. I think the fact that no one from the GOP came out strongly against what Limbaugh said speaks volumes to female voters. The reaction from the candidates could not have been more tepid.